Letter to the Editor
Climate change
Published Monday, July 7, 2008
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To the editor:
About Aug. 26, 55 BC, Julius Caesar first landed with two legions of soldiers in England.
Question: How deep is the English Channel 2,100 years of natural warming?
Answer: About 30 feet deeper than it was 2,100 years ago.
In Julius Caesar’s days there were not enough humans to cause “global warming” no CO2 emissions from cars, coal burning power plants, fuel oil, airplanes, candidates for President of the United States, or TV/movie propaganda, and most of all there were no government scientists on the payroll promoting an anti-America political agenda helped by the Associated Press.
I am thankful natural climate change started 18,000 years ago and continues. The melted permafrost makes life possible in Fairbanks, in vast sections of North of America and for Julius to sail to England rather than walk.
Thankfully yours on Julius 2, 2008 AD,
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yah, those evil elitist anti-american scientists. they'll be the first to be sent to the concentration camp.
humans have had serious difficulties during colder spells in history, such as the "little ice age" http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia/...
so the earth warms a bit? what's the problem? agriculture booms. the arctic ocean is ice free this summer and new york city isn't flooded. i don't see the draw back here. alaska can now trade with europe.
The only drawback I can see to runaway global warming is that as the equatorial regions become less inhabitable, there will be a migration north. Hopefully, Alaska is far enough north we will be able to avoid the rush while still enjoying the benefits of a warmer climate.
That said, I hope we get a decent snowfall this winter!
Biggest problem is not Global Warming but the HUGE TAX INCREASE proposed to alledgely fix it.
an even bigger problem than the huge tax increase is the huge increase at the pump. especially for those of us who are interested in actively promoting global warming.
first of all, you have to be naive or in denial or illiterate to proclaim that we have nothing to do with global warming. if you read something actually scientific, such as a scientific journal, you might know better.
secondly, you might enjoy having less permafrost around here but it bothers me that the record hurricane seasons in the southeastern part of the country don't concern you. way to be selfish
George Washington's troops faced 100+ degree temperatures during the summers in New England...(today we sacrifice puppies to the gods if it gets above 80 there) Damn him and his SUV's...didn't anyone ever tell him to move his troops on a clean burning horse??
Sorry, just thought I'd go with the "single event in history" strategy.
I don't deny human involvement in global warming, I'm just sayin....
According to news reports:
The UN says global temperatures will go up 3F in the next 100 years. Ok, 3 F in 100 years equals .03 F /per year.
The global warming supporters say, the USA causes 20% of the problem. The other 80% is caused by other nations (notably those who cut or burn the forests down, have many times the population they can feed, etc.)
Thus, the actual USA's share of the problem is 20% of the .03 F per year using the UN's figures, that equals .006 F per year ie. six one thousandths of a degree F.
Now they have me intrigued! Because my thermometer is only accurate to 2 degrees (maybe) and I have no superman ability to measure 1 thousandth of a degree atmospheric temperature day to day, year to year. WOWeee the global warm fans have quite a thermometer that is supper,supper accurate over 100 years.
A though experiment:
If I pour a gallon of water in the Little Chena River will the river rise in downtown Fairbanks?
Answer: Of course it does!
BUT, how do can anyone measure a river rise from my gallon of water vs how much the river rise is caused yesterdays rain shower or snow melting?
Not only do the global warming fans claim in their "scientific data" is valid they go on to clam they have the ability to prove my gallon of water will raise the ocean in Tokyo Bay!
And to protect, Tokyo, we MUST to pass laws prohibiting a gallon of water being dumped, and hike the price of gas to $10 /gal and live like a fifth world nation.
Regarding global warming:
Some 14,700 years the Earth's temperature rose 22 F in only 50 years according to ice core samples taken from Greenland and the South Pole. The Earth then turned cold for another 3,000 years and started warming 11,700 years ago; thus, 9,100 years later Julius was able to sail to England rather than walk.
I suggest reading type into Google search "ice core data" and looking up:
"Greenland Ice Core Analysis Shows Drastic Climate Change Near End Of Last Ice Age"
ScienceDaily (Jun. 19, 2008)
Global warming, I am sure, is real in terms of "Wow the earth is warmer".
However, we overlook the most reasonable cause of global warming: the universe is not stable. Weather is NEVER static. Our orbit is not static. Our planet is not static. At various times in the history of the earth, temperatures have increased and decreased. There was a time when wine grapes flourished in England. There were ice ages, and the following "warm ups". Now consider what sort of "global climate change" would look like if you were emerging from an ice age.
There have been droughts before industrial society, famines, "year without summer"'s and other severe and sometimes catastrophic changes in climate that had NOTHING AT ALL to do with SUV's.
The panic about global warming is just that....panic. Yes we are getting warmer at the moment. At some point we will get colder. This is life on earth. The global warming craze is, I believe, a tactic to try to steer global society into "approved" lifestyle habits.
I wonder if we can blame all the hot air in DC for global warming. It's not about who is to blame for the change if anyone. But we do need to make changes and not by strangling the common person in doing it. It shouldn't be up to the middle class to pay for it.
Maybe the dinosaurs will wake back up and solve the whole thing.
@patcaribou,
currently, the so-called climate change skeptics are the "bad" guys, but not the global warming alarmists. The former are denounced as paid by big oil and big coal. Hansen, NASA's climate guru compared, for instance, cordons of coal cars heading to power plants to the death trains of the Holocaust (because of the mass extinctions foreseen by many biologists should warming go unabated). Hansen is considered as a hero by the environmentalists, other are denounced as right-wing jerks (see the following instance):
As an alumnus of UAF, let me assure you not everyone there is a nutbar like Kramm or the unlamented retired Akasofu. Our West Ridge used to be famous for upper-atmosphere geophysics, marine biology, permafrost studies, and a couple other disciplines. In fact, some of the politicized right-wing jerks I knew back in the day there have woken up (given the results of the global warming that was in the pipe 15 years ago is now very evident in Alaska) completely and some are very enthusiastic to set the record straight.
We've known about the greenhouse effect since the 19th c. - by 1922 that it would be a theory growing in reputation that the earth would warm, and that the polar extremes would show it first, does not surprise me. More shame for these liars and psychotics and ignoramuses that what falls out of even a fairly simple model is beyond them - or so they claim.
Posted by: Marion Delgado | June 30, 2008 1:06 PM
It seems that this guy Delgado is a former graduate student of Glenn Juday, a professor of forest ecology at UAF.
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