Letter to the Editor

Throw them out

Published Tuesday, July 8, 2008

July 5, 2008

To the editor:

George W. Bush, already at the lowest poll numbers for any president in U.S. history, continues to drop in popularity and just in the last few weeks a series of damaging revelations will likely bring those numbers down even further.

These revelations began when Scott McClellan, Bush’s longtime press secretary, in an unprecedented move, spelled out how Bush had used lies and propaganda to sell the war in Iraq as well as a host of other damaging charges. That shocker was followed by another remarkable report by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, now retired. He served as the deputy commanding general for support of the 3rd Army for 10 months during the early days of the Iraq occupation.

It was Taguba who wrote the original report detailing abuses committed at Abu Ghraib and now he bluntly accuses the Bush administration of war crimes and urges prosecutions, this from a career military officer.

Finally, last week, another report commissioned by the Justice Department lays out in shocking detail the Bush administration’s push to make the Justice Department an arm of the Republican Party. Bush has run up more debt than all the democratic presidents combined. Regarding Iraq, his lies have led to one of, if not the greatest debacle in U.S. history. One half million killed, millions homeless, an estimated $3 trillion price tag (all borrowed), our once robust economy staggering like a drunk and our standing in the world at an all-time low. What’s remarkable is not that Bush has sunk so low in the polls but that he still has any support at all.

The Republican Party has by and large backed Bush’s ruinous policies. They truly deserve to be thrown out of office, both on a local and a national level. The only language this crop of Republican politicians understand is getting their butts kicked at the ballot box. Don’t give ’em another chance. Throw the bums out!

 

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  1. majast2211
    7/8/2008, 12:13 a.m.
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    kudos to you bro

  2. Dana VanDam
    7/8/2008, 12:44 a.m.
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    Yup. Everything bad is Republican. Everything good is Democrat. Such an inspirational and accurate insight.

    Personally, I vote that every one of them, dem and rep alike get voted out. I'd also adore seeing to Presidential candidates worth a vote and worthy of the office running, but if wishes were possible, I'd see that unicorn in my back yard right about now. I guess we'll just stick with "right, bad! left, good!" for right now. It solves a lot.

  3. MikeDanger
    7/8/2008, 3:45 a.m.
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    Clearly, Mr. McGuire needs a little bit more honest information.

    First off, while President Bush’s approval rating is at a very low level, so is the approval rating for the democrat controlled congress. A May 14 Gallup poll stated that the congressional approval rating was 18%. So apparently, most Americans think both Bush and Congress are doing a terrible job.

    And who cares about Scott McClellan, he’s one guy who’s trying to sell books. Heck even Obama's, friend and mentor of twenty years, Rev Wright, eventually turned on him.

    And stop bringing up Abu Ghraib. That was FOUR years ago. The people who were involved in that were all punished (like they should have been) and the military has learned from that mistake. Give it a break. What if your wife brought up mistakes you made four years ago.

    Moving on. The Justice Department is apart of the executive branch. Any president, republican or democrat, can hire or fire whoever they want.

    And while most liberals who are ignorant of America’s past may think that Iraq is the “greatest debacle in U.S. history”, it certainly is not. How about the suspension of habeas corpus during the presidency of Lincoln. How about Lincoln’s choice to imprison individuals who spoke out against the war. Heck, how about the Civil War itself. That was truly terrible. What about Slavery. There are a few people who think that that was actually pretty bad. What about the internment of U.S. citizens during the Roosevelt administration. What about the Great Depression, Pearl Harbor, or 9/11. Read a halfway decent history and then try to say that Iraq is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this country.

    As far as the economy goes, it grew last quarter, albeit at a terribly miniscule rate of 0.9%, but it still grew. The unemployment rate of 5.5% is lower than Canada’s, Mexico’s and most of the European Union.

    And as far as what the rest of the world thinks of us. Who cares? We’re the greatest nation that’s ever existed in the history of mankind, and if other countries and people have a problem with that; then too bad for them. They need to shut the heck up.

    Look, there’s no difference between democrat or republican politicians. They say and do whatever it takes to get elected and then to get re-elected. They make sure that they win and we the people continue to lose.

  4. patcaribou
    7/8/2008, 4:14 a.m.
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    blah, blah, blah, yadda yadda yadda...mclellan and taguba havn't revealed anything new. if it doesn't involve a democrat and young interns, you're just wasting your breath. besides war is our bread and butter. war is an honorable pursuit. war is peace...

  5. patcaribou
    7/8/2008, 4:17 a.m.
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    "And as far as what the rest of the world thinks of us. Who cares? We’re the greatest nation that’s ever existed in the history of mankind, and if other countries and people have a problem with that; then too bad for them. They need to shut the heck up."

    famous last words...

  6. FreeDarfur
    7/8/2008, 7:09 a.m.
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    Despite all the Clinton haters out there, exactly how much in debt was this country when he left office. There was a surplus and guess who blew it and put this country into trillions of dollars worth of debt. This part I have to agree with.

    The bigger question is why were the republicans only able to come up with a candidate like McCain. The party knew they were in trouble with the American voters and they ended up nominating one of the weakest candidates they could. Maybe they just don't want to clean up the mess they have created in the last 8 years.

  7. Bugger
    7/8/2008, 7:15 a.m.
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    We’re the greatest nation that’s ever existed in the history of mankind, now we have someone who wonts to "change" that. Keep it up and you just might get that "CHANGE"..

  8. glacierles
    7/8/2008, 7:37 a.m.
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    patcaribou---

    If all that the USA did in the world was to pass out free money and free food, the same countries would still despise us. Why? Because we are the dominant country in the world, in terms of business, worldwide philanthropy, individual liberty, feeding our people, popular culture, and yes, military strength. These other nations suffer a bit of envy. Americans have too much, they think. And it becomes easy to say "Down with the USA", while at the same time trying to figure out how to move here. If you want to be popular with the rest of the world, you should be Monaco, or Switzerland, or Luxemborg. Everybody loves those countries.

    I'm not saying that other people dont love their own countries. And some countries do some things better than we do. But we bring the whole dominant package to the table, and we have since WWII. The rest of the world should be grateful for that, although we dont demand their gratefulness, because it easily could have been the Soviets.

    MikeDanger---

    "And while most liberals who are ignorant of America's past..." is a redundant statement. Otherwise, I couldn't agree more with your comments.

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    As for the propaganda letter to the editor, it's a free country. Even free to be full of hate and lies. Heck, look at Al Gore. He makes a great living out of the same, and he won a Nobel Peace Prize for it.

  9. glacierles
    7/8/2008, 7:52 a.m.
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    FreeDarfur---

    The answer to your 2nd question is "open primaries". Republicans didn't nominate McCain, Democrats and independents did.

    The answer to your 1st question is more complex. 9/11 changed the country. And of course, what I imagine you are referring to, the war. Clinton skipped out on his responsibity to defend the country, the attacks came, and Bush is left with the bill. Most definitely, homeland security and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are costly. There is no denying that.

    And Bush wasted lots of money trying to mollycoddle Congress. Signing defense bills with Christmas tree spending added on by Congress upped the debt.

  10. polarmark
    7/8/2008, 8:31 a.m.
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    i'm guessing sean mcguire is very young and doesn't remember very many presidents or presidential administrations. apparently also the public schools don't seem to teach history anymore either. worst president = bush? check out these stats http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/worstp...

    no one seems to remember 9/11 any more. no one seems to remember the videos of people being beheaded. i'm guess there are many people out there who are thoroughly irritated that the surge worked and that we have WON the war in iraq. you people don't really deserve the freedom or the wealth that do you have. and i imagine that within your life time you will indeed lose it.

  11. Bob
    7/8/2008, 8:57 a.m.
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    Mr. McGuire, is it the Bush Administration's fault that A-Rod is having problems too?

  12. north_pole79
    7/8/2008, 8:58 a.m.
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    Sean: full of sound and fury, signifying nothing... Why are liberals so given to hyperbole?

  13. woodman
    7/8/2008, 9:27 a.m.
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    Now that Iraq is going to start producing oil again, do you think their government will pay back the US for the cost of the war? Maybe Bush should have gotten an agreement along the line that Iraq would have to become financially responsible for repayment to the US, at least a portion of it. Since their government holds nationally owned oil fields, they should in a matter of years be able to do so.

  14. gopking
    7/8/2008, 9:41 a.m.
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    The author of the letter assumes that every Republican thinks the way Bush does. He forgets that many within the party have stood against Bush's policies. Look at Libertarian Presidential candidate Bob Barr, who has now left the Republican Party and is running for President at a Libertarian. Or, take Ron Paul as another example. He'll never get elected President, but he truly stands out as a maverick in the Republican Party - somebody who truly believes in the backbone principles of the party - limited government, personal freedom. These two politicians are shining examples of why we need to look at personal character, not party name. The two current Dem and Rep presidential candidates are shining examples of why it's time to step outside of the Dem vs. Rep battle. There are other parties out there. There are other candidates. We are the only reason none of them ever get elected. If we would stand up and vote for one of these other candidates, like a Bob Barr, it would send shocking signals to the two mainstream parties.

  15. fsmnh2
    7/8/2008, 10:07 a.m.
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    "And as far as what the rest of the world thinks of us. Who cares? We’re the greatest nation that’s ever existed in the history of mankind, and if other countries and people have a problem with that; then too bad for them. They need to shut the heck up."

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Oh, separatists. Fascinating how people like you actually seem to believe we can survive without other nations-in fact, without other people in general. "In the history of mankind", huh?

    The Roman empire would be so disappointed.

  16. buboy
    7/8/2008, 10:11 a.m.
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    Hey Sean...Have you checked congress approval rating?

    Our problems in America....Equal credit goes to the republicans and democrats. Example: No energy policy for 35+ years.

  17. IamUSAFRet
    7/8/2008, 10:12 a.m.
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    Mike Danger

    - Thanks for a very good post!

    Free Darfur

    - As far as Clinton having a surplus when he left office, Clinton can thank Ronald Reagan for his hard work. It took time for the fruit of his labor to produce what Clinton enjoyed.

    glacierles

    I agree with you Clinton didn’t do his job so President Bush was left with it. I often wonder what the world would be like if President Bush didn’t make the hard decisions.

    God Bless America, God Bless out Troops and God Bless the Sound of Freedom!

  18. bigchinasean
    7/8/2008, 10:26 a.m.
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    Who isn't 'given to hyperbole'? Get your head out of the ground.

  19. corinne
    7/8/2008, 10:28 a.m.
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    Is anybody else having problems with this site? I just wrote a good comment, but as has happened before today, lost it to the "IE cannot find" thing. So...

    Hi gopking, good to see you!
    glacierles, his is my response to your post on yesterday's "Two Parties" or whatever it's called. Thanks, gopking!

    If people would all vote their conscience/philosophy/principles, rather than the hold-your-nose method, then we could get decent government.

    It's that mentality, glacierles, that is the problem, as I said yesterday. You, g-babe, are part of the problem, even though I believe in spirit you are with us.

    Voting on principle and true philosophy is not allowing others to elect our government. Those who practice the hold-the-nose method are keeping the power-mongers/opinion-makers in power, and we all lose.

    I think I'll vote for Bob Barr. He would be a good pres. And I'll feel warm and fuzzy knowing I did the right thing, and am not part of the problem, but trying to be part of the solution.

  20. corinne
    7/8/2008, 10:36 a.m.
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    First post was better, but I didn't want to risk it again.
    I've listened to Bob Barr, but not lately,and liked what he had to say. And he strikes me as sincere.
    I'll have to look him up and see what he's got going on these days.
    But I'm sure he's better than the "chosen two."

  21. soontobemama
    7/8/2008, 10:36 a.m.
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    "God Bless OUT Troops"

    Was that written on purpose or was it a Freudian slip?

  22. Dana VanDam
    7/8/2008, 10:46 a.m.
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    corinne - I get that same problem. Copy your post before hitting the submit button. That way even if you get that error, you don't have to re-write it, you'll just have to paste it.

  23. IamUSAFRet
    7/8/2008, 10:48 a.m.
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    soontobemama --

    My mistake, a slip on the key board. I should have proof read better. I certainly meant and mean "God Bless Our Troops!

    I was going to say "fat fingers on the key board, but that would have offended someone" so I said "slip" instead.

    Thanks for pointing this out. I had to make it right.

  24. soontobemama
    7/8/2008, 12:20 p.m.
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    Just joshing you USAF!

  25. allen
    7/8/2008, 12:29 p.m.
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    Bush needs to be drug out back and beaten like a disobedient whore! He's done nothing impressive at all with his time in office, but he is from Texas, so what can you really expect?

  26. glacierles
    7/8/2008, 12:32 p.m.
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    corinne---

    I'm glad that you will have a clean conscience and feel all warm and fuzzy.

    And then when President Obama raises your taxes, socializes your medical care, prematurely pulls out of Iraq with all that that entails, and appoints Hillary to the Supreme Court you can say, "Dont blame me, I voted for Bob Barr."

    sigh...

  27. IamUSAFRet
    7/8/2008, 12:39 p.m.
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    glacierles,

    I don't know you, but we think so much alike. Good point! So true! Thank you.

  28. ogreat1
    7/8/2008, 12:47 p.m.
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    Allen, I agree with you on that Bush has done nothing impressive. But really, do women need to be beaten because they are "disobedient"?

  29. ogreat1
    7/8/2008, 12:50 p.m.
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    Also Allen, I'm sure your mama raised you better than to be calling females whores! I don't think you would've called her a whore right?

  30. nonpartisan
    7/8/2008, 1:34 p.m.
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    polarmark says: "i'm guessing sean mcguire is very young and doesn't remember very many presidents or presidential administrations."

    Actually, Sean McGuire is well into middle age. But like most radicals (aging and otherwise), he seems to only remember Vietnam and the Nixon Administration. This is why the left has failed to offer any viable solutions to our present situation. Just as old generals are forever f